Reflection, Restlessness, and a Set of Automotive Keys: Runnner’s Noah Weinman on ‘A Welcome Form of Weak point’

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Noah Weinman’s sophomore studio album as Runnner, ‘A Welcome Form of Weak point’ is a vivid, punchy testomony to heartbreak, isolation, and gradual therapeutic.
‘A Welcome Form of Weak point’ – Runnner


My restlessness was in some way the factor that propelled these songs into being a lot extra excessive power than earlier data sounded.

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Noah Weinman’s music, launched beneath the stage identify Runnner, is a mix of consolation and uncertainty, channeling mundane moments into trembling drums and delicate strings.

From folksy reflection to ambient albums, Weinman has explored a singular mix of sounds and instrumentals to craft narrative tales with every launch. His latest mission, A Welcome Form of Weak point, unleashes a brand new facet of himself, lyrically and sonically. Motivated by a breakup and recovering from a torn Achilles tendon, his grief turns into nearly feral, backed by a full band and produced in excessive constancy for the primary time.

“I really feel much more bare and uncovered,” Weinman admits to me. Alongside closely layered blankets of sound, A Welcome Form of Weak point boasts daring, assured vocals that makes Weinman really feel extra uncovered than when he was drawling over the acoustic guitar in a darkish bed room.

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Launched August 29 by way of Run for Cowl Information, Runnner’s sophomore studio album is a very long time coming. Having spent 5 years within the LA music scene, Weinman has produced work for the likes of Skullcrusher, Gigi Perez, Odie Leigh, and Horsepower whereas concurrently refining his personal craft. He’s consistently going, whether or not that be scribbling down half-thought out lyrics or rigorously engineering a observe, however in spring of 2023, using the excessive of his latest tour, Weinman’s life got here to a screeching halt.

He tore his Achilles tendon and was all of the sudden bedridden, ripped from the hectic life he had turn out to be so used to. He credit the sheer drive of his newest album to this isolation and reflection. “My restlessness was in some way the factor that propelled these songs into being a lot extra excessive power than earlier data sounded,” he tells me. Usually, Weinman works to condense the heyday of his life into mellow meditations, however this time, he was straining to be heard.

After Weinman’s restoration, he was launched into two excursions, armed with growing demos and no studio to refine them in. Even earlier than the damage, he knew he needed to make one thing that encapsulated the sensation of a late-90’s CD – flashy, concrete, and unyielding. Influenced by weeks on the street listening to the likes of Liz Phair, Dying Cab for Cutie, and Radiohead, Weinman each faucets right into a nostalgic sound and modernizes it with flashy manufacturing that deviates from his DIY roots whereas preserving true to the style.

Although he makes an attempt to steer away from the guiding drive of ambient interludes that he’s recognized for, the album begins with “A Welcome,” a fragile observe that slowly dissolves into the wrenching “Achilles And.” With a couple of clacks of the drumsticks, the track dives straight right into a heavy, vivid beat that lifts Weinman’s wistful vocals. “I’m nonetheless in my mattress / Writing the identical songs over once more,” he spits, chastising himself for an unintended damage with the resolve of somebody who’s used to being firmly in management. Because the album progresses, some tracks tease a couple of light chords earlier than launching into fierce instrumentals, whereas others dive proper in and not using a second of hesitation.


One of many standout tracks is the most recent single off the album, “Claritin.” Impressed by feeling groggy on a sizzling summer time day and lifelong allergy symptoms, Weinman nearly explicitly poses the query that runs by means of A Welcome Form of Weak point – “is it higher to really feel ache or to really feel nothing?”

I left my shirt again in my room / And I unfold myself in dying bloom / ‘Til the solar got here up and dried me out / And I held my tongue and cool down,” the track begins, with Weinman’s voice muted and a bit eliminated, as if you’re eavesdropping on him from the opposite room. With the refrain, a twangy lead comes into the image because of Weinman’s automobile keys and a single string guitar.

“It was simply what was within the studio that day, and it’s so completely out of tune to me,” he laughs.

For an artist so involved with perfecting every sound, this glad accident is a marker of a change in Weinman, each as an artist and a person. He’s prepared to relinquish extra management regardless of the extent of care put into every artistic choice.

Runnner 'A Welcome Kind of Weakness' © Maya Ragazzo
Runnner ‘A Welcome Form of Weak point’ © Maya Ragazzo

Now I really feel much more bare and uncovered, coming in in excessive constancy with vocals proper down the center. I believe it’s that concern that makes it thrilling.

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As for “the largest stylistic departure on the file,” Weinman identifies “PVD” as a little bit of an outlier. In comparison with the cheery sounds of earlier tracks, “PVD” is darkish and heavy-handed. It’s sharp and relentless and, in a phrase, epic. “PVD” looks like the largest testomony to what Weinman can, has, and can do, from the trill of the trumpet to thundering drumbeats. He admits he’s each excited and scared for its reception, expressing a duality that additionally emerges as a constant theme inside this file.

Weinman is dipping his toe into a big United States tour by beginning off with light acoustic units in UK file shops. He views these performances as extra of a dialog, whereas being onstage is predictable and deliberate. You may catch Runnner on tour from September 12 to October 11, and if there’s one album that was meant for the stage, it’s A Welcome Form of Weak point.

Noah Weinman’s newest Runnner file proves that you simply by no means know the place he may go subsequent – you simply hope you possibly can come alongside for the experience.

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A CONVERSATION WITH RUNNNER

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Atwood Journal: How does releasing A Welcome Form of Weak point really feel completely different out of your debut?

Runnner: It feels scarier, I believe as a result of it’s concurrently extra completely different from my earlier releases and extra easy. I’ve hidden in semi ambient lo-fi manufacturing. Not in a foul means, simply in a means [where] that’s how I appreciated working. And now I really feel much more bare and uncovered, coming in in excessive constancy with vocals proper down the center. I believe it’s that concern that makes it thrilling. That reassures me that it’s a artistic leap as a result of if I felt secure about doing one thing, then it in all probability wouldn’t essentially be value doing.

What was it like to provide this album in a studio for you, as each as a producer and as a musician?

Runnner: It stretched my creativeness in several methods. I’d say prior to now the place I’m self engineering, there are positively sure concepts that I wouldn’t have entertained as a result of I wouldn’t know how you can start to do this on an engineering degree. I believe that even when I did know how you can do it, I wouldn’t have the gear or the house to do no matter thought I had justice. A part of the concept of coming and doing this file in a studio was that I wasn’t going to concern myself with the practicality of so many concepts that I used to be having for this file. I needed to simply be nearly like a bratty baby in a means. Being like, I need this factor and I don’t care how troublesome or arduous it’s, we’re within the studio, we’re gonna make it occur, which may be very liberating creatively. I believe I’m somebody who actually thinks virtually about issues generally to a fault so I used to be actually wanting to attempt to undo a few of that, because the producer of this album, however not the engineer.

How does producing differ for your self versus once you’re producing for others?

Runnner: I believe it’s tougher to do for myself, truthfully. As a result of I lose sure views when it’s my very own voice, when it’s my very own track, when it’s simpler for me to get caught up in particulars. That feels important to me. However then I do assume that it’s the job of the producer in so many eventualities to type of maintain that broad perspective and assist facilitate the artist in that course the place you’re like, this stuff don’t actually matter within the grand scheme of issues. I believe not having an engineer helped me get to that time, however there have been nonetheless many leaps I needed to take. I believe that it’s enjoyable to provide for different folks as a result of I get to be that third individual perspective of actually remembering the entire form of the track.

What do the phrases “A Welcome Form of Weak point” imply to you?

Runnner: They’re taken from the tip of “Get Actual Sleep.” The concept there’s, you possibly can’t put up a battle without end. Falling asleep is a welcomed type of weak spot so much in your life. However then I believe within the context of the album title, though I used to be coping with unlucky circumstances in my life when it comes to the tip of my final relationship and tearing my Achilles, I believe that it made me grateful for every part else in my life in a means. Actually I used to be type of grateful for the time in my life to simply sit and breathe and replicate for some time as a result of I used to be going at a fairly quick clip and this time, it had its peaks and valleys.

However positively there have been some vivid spots in there and I believe it type of reaffirmed for me going ahead that I’ve an emotional resilience that I don’t at all times belief myself to have. The title type of simply signifies that this shit’s gonna occur, however I can welcome it into my life and embrace all of it as a web optimistic. I believe it’s additionally necessary to say that within the track that it’s taken from, it’s posited as a query, and I believe that carries over to the title as effectively. You’re not at all times going to just accept each setback in life with graciousness, however we will strive.

Runnner 'A Welcome Kind of Weakness' © Maya Ragazzo
Runnner ‘A Welcome Form of Weak point’ © Maya Ragazzo

You may’t put up a battle without end. Falling asleep is a welcomed type of weak spot so much in your life.

How did the songs evolve all through your restoration course of?

Runnner: I believe the manufacturing and the fashion of the songs was at all times going to be that fuller, dwell band sounding stuff, as a result of even earlier than I had the songs, that’s the vibe I needed for the following file. Being on bedrest and having all that point to replicate, it was the push-pull of writing these contemplative, unhappy, bedridden songs, however understanding that the carrot on the opposite finish was, after I was effectively once more, I used to be going to get to make these songs how I had initially envisioned them earlier than I acquired harm. My restlessness was in some way the factor that propelled these songs into being a lot extra excessive power than earlier data sounded. I believe if something, the bedrest put extra stressed power into the songs as a result of I wrote the songs after which as quickly as I began strolling once more, I had to return on tour. I used to be nonetheless delayed from going into the studio and dealing on these songs. So it wasn’t till I completed two extra excursions after tearing my Achilles that I lastly acquired to go to the studio. It’s a lot pent up power in all of those songs.

That positively interprets very effectively, and is completely different from a few of your different stuff, which is a little more muted. It is actually thrilling to listen to this sound coming from you.

Runnner: Yeah, and I believe the muted stuff is as a result of I’m residing in my hectic life and pulling myself out to make data is a extra meditative follow. So it will get mirrored there. That is the inverse of that. Mm-hmm.

Whilst you have been on tour earlier than you actually began this album, you have been solely listening to CDs out of your childhood and your aim with this was to make one thing that felt like a CD. I’d love to listen to extra about that thought course of and in addition what fundamental musical influences you had from this expertise.

Runnner: The CDs that we had… I assume just like the heaviest rotation would’ve been “Closing Straw” by Snow Patrol, “Rush of Blood to the Head” by Coldplay, “In Rainbows” by Radiohead, “Transatlanticism” by Dying Cab [for Cutie], “Misplaced in Area” by Amy Mann and ”Exile in Guyville” by Liz Phair. These have been all type of the CDs we had floating round. I needed one thing that felt prefer it was in dialog with these. These have been the CDs that first launched me to music. Oh, yet another: the the primary Fountains of Wayne album. Self-titled, that one’s large for me. And I used to be simply pondering, these data sound so huge and dwell and fast. They’re all from the identical period and it’s positively a bias of my age in all probability, however there’s one thing amazingly unstylized about these data. I do know that’s not the case, however for those who ask me what a band file seems like, simply “no manufacturing,” [there’s] this concept that it’s simply the best way a track and a band exists. Nobody has come and adorned that up. I believe that’s what I needed to do, as a result of normally my course of is, I write a track after which I discover all of the alternative ways I can gown it up with manufacturing. However this was, I simply need it to really feel like a daily track not directly, if that makes any sense.

Then when it comes to constructing it like a CD, I believe that my earlier makes an attempt or my earlier data, I used to be making an attempt to do one thing narratively pushed with these interludes. There’d be one thing that I contemplate a extra full track structurally, after which songs which are extra vibey tracks that assist give the texture of the file with out essentially pushing itself as a single or a standalone observe. However the best way all of those data appear to be constructed was simply banger after banger. No interludes, nothing like that. And that was onerous for me to let go of.

There’s like one small interlude on the very starting of the album, however then I used to be like, every part simply must be a whole track, like three minutes, and really feel like a standalone track. Then throw all of them collectively on a file and it turns into explosion after explosion, like a giant file in that means.

And I believe that’s what I imply by like a CD.

Runnner 'A Welcome Kind of Weakness' © Maya Ragazzo
Runnner ‘A Welcome Form of Weak point’ © Maya Ragazzo

I’d love to speak a bit of bit in regards to the visuals for “Claritin” and the stop-motion/collage parts occurring.

Runnner: I believe I’ve at all times been impressed by collage and cease movement. All of my album covers have been collages of some type, excluding starsdust, however as an ambient file that feels barely completely different. Between All the time Repeating, Like Dying Stars, and A Welcome Form of Weak point, they’re all collages. I’ve made my very own cease movement music movies earlier than, however this one was made by Jess Lamworth. I believe I’ve at all times been drawn to animation of all kinds, however as a result of I’m so horrible at drawing, doing a collage/cease movement fashion felt extra accessible to me. If I wanna take part within the creation of it or lend help, I really feel more proficient doing it in that means. After which I assume there’s one thing about collage album paintings that feels prefer it displays how I write songs in a pleasant means. The album cowl is made by one other artist named Maya Ragazzo.

I believe that I write songs by piecing collectively little bits of lyric or music that I simply accumulate over a time frame, after which synthesize them into one track, and that type of looks like making a collage. I’ve at all times felt that connection between the 2.

In “Claritin,” you managed to make such an emotional, gut-wrenching track about allergy symptoms. What was this course of like, pushing your self lyrically and sonically to speak that?

Runnner: Lyrically that track simply got here out. I don’t assume I used to be even having actual allergy symptoms that day, however it was a very sizzling summer time day and I used to be laying out within the solar simply feeling weak and drowsy. Claritin was a handy PG metaphor, I assume for this concept of, is it higher to really feel ache or to really feel nothing. And on this occasion, is it higher to endure by means of your allergy symptoms or take drowsy allergy treatment, which you’ll be able to then apply to any form of substance that you simply may do one thing comparable with, or any type of vice.

Nowhere within the track do I actually discuss having unhealthy allergy symptoms or taking Claritin apart from “that plastic style hangs in my mouth.” I believe it went from the bottom up in that means. I used to be simply sitting exterior, idling within the solar, wilting a bit of bit, and feeling very sensory. I believed that Claritin could be a cheeky strategy to button the entire thing up. Sonically, I assume it’s completely different. I used to be obsessive about this Boards of Canada track known as “Dayvan Cowboy,” whereas I used to be writing it. I didn’t actually know the way it was all going to click on collectively for a short time, however I had this track that I may play on guitar and sing and I had this complete template from the Boards of Canada track that I needed to be pulling from, after which the 2 simply got here collectively.

I believe the happiest accident with that track was that the instrumental lead is performed with my automobile keys on a guitar with one string. It was simply what was within the studio that day, and it’s so completely out of tune to me.

I believe that I write songs by piecing collectively little bits of lyric or music that I simply accumulate over a time frame, after which synthesize them into one track, and that type of looks like making a collage. I’ve at all times felt that connection between the 2.

You continue to have a couple of tracks left. Which of the tracks which are nonetheless but to launch are you most excited for folks to listen to?

Runnner: I believe “PVD” might be maybe the largest stylistic departure on the file. It’s very dense, it’s very dissonant. It’s very noisy, and it’s proper in the midst of the album. It’s the final track on facet A, so for those who’re listening on vinyl, it’d be like the very last thing earlier than you flip it. I needed it to be there as a result of it feels just like the pit of the album. There have been days of being caught in mattress, of actual despair and uncertainty, and I believe this represents that, though there’s nearly no lyrics to that track. I’m excited for folks to listen to that as a result of I’m actually happy with the way it turned out and I’m curious how individuals are gonna reply to it.

There have been days of being caught in mattress, of actual despair and uncertainty, and I believe this represents that, though there’s nearly no lyrics to that track.

In “Break up” you sing, “All my worst songs are all my softest truths, however I do not play them anymore.” Have been you pondering of any track specifically once you wrote that?

Runnner: I used to be pondering of a number of songs, however a number of songs that aren’t recorded and don’t truly exist to individuals who aren’t me. I believe that’s a bit of little bit of a mirrored image that my uncooked songs, straight from the diary, aren’t at all times my greatest songs. I don’t assume that I essentially can translate it into my greatest work, and I would like a bit of little bit of emotional distance to have the ability to craft the track out of it. However I’m at all times writing. There’s at all times a primary few songs after I’m engaged on a brand new batch of songs which are actually on the nostril when it comes to the themes of every part that I’m gonna be writing about for the following 20 songs that I write, however accomplish that in type of a ham-handed means that I simply have to get out earlier than I can begin writing the good things.

The, “however I don’t play them anymore,” is a bit of little bit of the embarrassment that I really feel generally at how a lot navel gazing I’ve to do on this job. Generally it feels actually good to have the ability to channel this stuff in my life into artwork and generally it feels so selfish that I simply need to curl up and disappear.

In a TikTok you posted, you shared a few of your diary entries from throughout your restoration and also you talked about the demos for the album. You stated, “They sound unhealthy, however I believe that is the purpose. Like they’re going to drive me to enhance on them within the studio as an alternative of falling in love with their middling qualities.” How do you navigate, demos usually and, not getting too hooked up to them after they first are created?

Runnner: I believe making them unhealthy is a part of it, together with like an impossibly small time window that I get to even make it in, like 10 minutes or one thing. As a result of I are usually a relentless finisher, and if I begin pulling the thread on one thing, I’m going to need to maintain going and maintain going. Even when I haven’t let the concept percolate sufficient, I’m very impatient in that means. So for this album, I used to be actually making an attempt to follow endurance as a result of at first I used to be caught in mattress. Then I used to be again on tour and couldn’t file. I simply needed to have these dangling threads of concepts that might all assist in service of that saved up, pent up power that we have been speaking about earlier. Nevertheless it’s a really uncomfortable place to dwell in, and I’m undecided if I’d do it once more, to be sincere. I had a tough time with it emotionally, sitting with that.

I believe that after I wrote that journal entry, I had simply made these demos and I used to be glad to have accomplished my work and had a cause for half-assing it the best way that I did. However then two months later, when the one like proof of idea of those songs are these actually like tough demos that I’ve made, I’m mad at myself as a result of I haven’t pushed the concept extra. Then after I get within the studio, it’s nearly like there was nearly an excessive amount of of a launch. I had saved up too many concepts after which I needed to begin calling them simply as rapidly as I used to be laying them down. And that was type of a irritating place to be additionally. I’m undecided if I realized the easiest way to navigate it, however I attempted some strategy to navigate it this time and I’ve a bit of bit extra of a roadmap for a way I’m gonna navigate it sooner or later, which is to make extra in depth demos, however attempt to be extra mature about bettering upon them.

There’s so many lovely imperfections that it may be onerous to know the place the road is between one thing that’s effectively executed that additionally has some lovely imperfections or simply one thing actually sloppy that you’ve a really sturdy bias in the direction of. I believe what I actually needed on this file was polish. And I knew I used to be solely gonna get it if I went in with only a few concepts set in stone.

I’d love to speak about your tour which kicks off in a couple of days.

Runnner: I’m in London proper now and I’ve my first in-store efficiency tomorrow. I’ve three file retailer exhibits over the following three days. That’s extra of a tour the best way that, like a ebook tour is a tour. I’m in a small file retailer, I play a brief acoustic set, after which I meet folks and signal data and stuff.

So it looks like a tour, however it’s onerous to lump it in with the US tour, which begins on September twelfth. That’s extra of a standard, full band within the van, 4 weeks on the street, 20 one thing exhibits in 20 one thing cities.

What’s the distinction between these two codecs? Are there strengths and weaknesses to them each?

Runnner: Yeah. I believe that there’s a cool flexibility and immediacy to the in-stores. I’ve nothing deliberate, I barely make a set listing. It’s very a lot in dialog with the viewers, which at all times feels enjoyable. We’re in a tiny file retailer. I’ll speak to folks, we’ll see what folks wanna hear and take requests and play stuff that possibly I’ve by no means performed earlier than and there’s a very enjoyable flexibility to all of it.

However it’s possibly not as huge and tight as a full band present. And we’re gonna be a 5 piece band on the street for the US exhibits. It’s an extended set with a set listing that we’ve been rehearsing from high to backside and simply extra of a efficiency. And fewer of possibly, I don’t know what you’d name the opposite one, like an interplay.

Reflection, Restlessness, and a Set of Automotive Keys: Runnner’s Noah Weinman on ‘A Welcome Form of Weak point’
Runnner ‘A Welcome Form of Weak point’ © Maya Ragazzo

That seems like a really lovely expertise to have together with your listeners as effectively.

Runnner: Yeah. It’s cool to be that intimate, and never that the exhibits aren’t additionally intimate. And I believe prior to now it’s been onerous. I assume one factor is it’s onerous to have interaction with the viewers if I’m talking right into a microphone. That simply looks like a bizarre additional factor. I’m tremendous to sing right into a microphone, however talking into one makes me clam up. A aim that I’ve set for myself for this tour is to be higher about preserving that degree of engagement, though I’m up on a stage with a microphone.

Do you’ve got another objectives for this tour?

Runnner: Nothing that’s as private, you recognize? I need to play effectively, I need to hopefully promote a number of tickets, which aren’t at all times romantic and enjoyable objectives, however type of that sensible touring mindset. I’m at all times making an attempt to drink much less on tour is one thing that I’m extra answerable for.

It’s onerous to tour, there are such a lot of variables. It’s onerous to essentially put objectives on something exterior of what’s very fast, however I’m excited to discover new sonic territory. I haven’t accomplished most of those songs. We haven’t toured with a saxophone participant ever.

Although we’ve accomplished so many LA exhibits and recordings with horns. And this can solely be my second tour taking part in an acoustic guitar as an alternative of an electrical guitar, which actually has modified so much for me, greater than I believed it might. So I’m very excited to be persevering with down that path.

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