Interview: Calum Hood of 5SOS on Getting into His Personal with Solo Debut ‘ORDER chaos ORDER’

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Calum Hood (of 5 Seconds of Summer season) opens up about vulnerability, inventive rediscovery, and getting into his personal with ‘ORDER chaos ORDER,’ his introspective and cinematic debut solo album.
Stream: “Don’t Overlook You Love Me” – Calum Hood


I needed to be taught to let go and provides in to the character of each chaos and calm, to permit them to coexist and maintain arms all through the method. They turned impartial forces in a means. Neither good nor unhealthy, simply mandatory.

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Calum Hood isn’t any stranger to the highlight.

First 5 Seconds of Summer season band member and now thrilling new solo artist, Hood arrives this summer time together with his extremely anticipated album, ORDER chaos ORDER (June 13th by way of Capitol Data). The report is an expansive exploration of Hood’s personal musical curiosities, but it surely represents a return to his unique love for creation and making music.

ORDER chaos ORDER – Calum Hood
12 a.m. on taco Tuesday
I’m cryin’ out my eyes
And I’m sittin’ there, wonderin’
If I wanna be alive
And I’m starin’ out the window
I’m lookin’ by means of the rain
And I swear to God I see you standin’ there
Every thing, in every single place, in every single place
And I do know that it’s arduous to see
Each model of me
But it surely’s not the identical as all the things you ever thought
I ever may however by no means can be
However I’ve tried sufficient to name you
And I’m scared that you simply’ll choose up
‘Trigger I do know that I don’t need you to
‘Trigger, child, I’d havе to personal up
To everythin’, oh, evеrythin’ I’ve completed to you
And all I did to us
– “Don’t Overlook You Love Me,” Calum Hood

Reflecting inwards whereas reaching extensive, ORDER chaos ORDER charts a journey of private reflection and dynamic creativity. Hood’s debut solo report establishes him as a poignant storyteller in his personal proper, however greater than that, an unbelievable milestone for an artist already accredited for his age.

ORDER chaos ORDER stands at ten tracks, and the challenge is a shimmering manifestation of optimism by means of ache. By waves of self-reflection and reckoning, Hood’s songwriting shines in its introspective storytelling. His first departure from the band, the album additionally breathes new life into Hood’s inventive course of.

Oh, effectively, I’m jealous of the partitions
painted in your home

Losing my life away
Oh, if I may very well be there
I may keep in your room ceaselessly
Oh, effectively, I want you’d go away
Oh, I can see it in your face
Whenever you’re staring
and also you’re spacing and also you’re breaking
I by no means ought to’ve damage you
I discuss so much to drown my tears
I guess you would like I didn’t see nothin’
With nothin’ however your t-shirt, a contemporary contact
To dry my fears
Why don’t you name me
when you understand higher?
– “Name Me When You Know Higher,” Calum Hood


For Hood, this report is as a lot a rebirth as it’s a return to type.

As he explains, writing and recording ORDER chaos ORDER introduced him again to his unique love for making music.

After over a decade within the accredited band 5 Seconds of Summer season, Hood cites the report’s conception as completely shaping his relationship with the band too. In the easiest way potential, “it’s made me a greater asset to [5 seconds of summer].” This journey was one which fostered an limitless creativity, expressive curiosity, and progress by means of management.

“This album was made in a tumble dryer of understanding and never understanding,” Hood tells Atwood Journal. “I began out with a imaginative and prescient – order – however shortly turned overwhelmed by the method – chaos. Ultimately, I realized to embrace each, and that steadiness turned the center of the report… There are issues I’ve by no means been in a position to sing about within the band – my upbringing, my household, the locations life has taken me. This album is about laying these issues to relaxation and permitting listeners to attach in their very own means.”

Atwood Journal just lately sat down with the acclaimed singer and songwriter, delving into the inventive conception of his debut solo album, the collaboration propelling the report’s distinctive soundscape, and Calum Hood’s personal reflections as an artist – each independently and as a band member.

ORDER chaos ORDER is out June 13th by way of Capitol Data!

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Calum Hood 'ORDER chaos ORDER' © Sarah Eiseman
Calum Hood ‘ORDER chaos ORDER’ © Sarah Eiseman

A CONVERSATION WITH CALUM HOOD

ORDER chaos ORDER - Calum Hood

Atwood Journal: Congratulations on the brand new album, Calum! How do you’re feeling main as much as the discharge?

Calum Hood: I really feel fairly good! It’s been a very long time coming. 29 years, to be precise. So there’s plenty of anticipation, pleasure, and nerves.

Are you able to inform me extra in regards to the album’s title, ORDER chaos ORDER? Why did you title it that and what does it imply to you?

Calum Hood: Yeah, I believe it actually simply displays the cycle of my life each personally and artistically. At first, I in all probability related chaos with one thing unfavorable, however over time it really turned a type of good friend. I needed to be taught to let go and provides in to the character of each chaos and calm, to permit them to coexist and maintain arms all through the method. They turned impartial forces in a means. Neither good nor unhealthy, simply mandatory. And after I was considering of names, these two concepts felt probably the most current. They have been there the entire time, guiding the journey.

You talked about collaboration actually defining the conception of the album. It looks as if it was actually eye-opening for you as a inventive. Are you able to elaborate?

Calum Hood: Mmm, positively. Each visually and musically, I’d say this challenge was formed by some actually sturdy inventive relationships. It was nonetheless very collaborative, which was one thing I actually appreciated, particularly coming from a band atmosphere, the place that back-and-forth is the norm. Truthfully, considered one of my largest fears going into this was the thought of doing it on their lonesome. That mindset in the beginning, “oh my God, I’m by myself, I’ve to determine all the things out on my own,” was fairly overwhelming. However as I bought deeper into making the album, it turned clear that I wasn’t alone. I had assist, and that made an enormous distinction.

I ended up constructing new inventive partnerships and rekindling previous ones. I’m fortunate to name a lot of these collaborators mates now. They gave me the house to be myself and have been extremely affected person whereas I found out who I used to be as a solo artist. That type of assist was invaluable, and I’m actually grateful for it.

Why did you need to put your solo debut album out now? What made this the correct time?

Calum Hood: I simply don’t suppose I used to be actually prepared earlier than this. I needed to attend till I used to be positive, till I knew, deep down, that making a report on my own was actually what I needed to do. Not for another purpose, however for the pure intention of being an artist, and of rising as a songwriter. And I believe I additionally wanted to attend till I may correctly articulate the issues I needed to say, to inform the tales I needed to inform from a spot the place I may actually do them justice. So hopefully I did that.

I learn that you simply did what David Bowie and Brian Eno did, the place they went in separate rooms to jot down various things, then introduced them collectively. What was that like once you did it?

Calum Hood: No, it was actually enjoyable. I believe I additionally bought the prospect to experiment with totally different processes. That was type of the purpose, to shake issues up and see if I may get a distinct end result than I often would when approaching a observe.

With “Limitless Methods,” it was me, Elijah, and Jackson. Jackson threw on his headphones and labored on the observe individually, whereas Elijah and I actually used a click on observe on our telephone and wrote the highest line, melody and lyrics, fully independently. On the finish of the day, we introduced each components collectively, and one way or the other… they only clicked. I nonetheless don’t know the way it labored, but it surely did. What I beloved about that course of was the way it allowed the lyric to essentially be the talisman of the session. It led the way in which. It was simply totally different, which was enjoyable.

I really feel just like the report was such as you have been virtually attending to know your internal little one once more. Would you say this album helped you try this? Or possibly assist you to reattach your self to a model of you that was unjaded in terms of music?

Calum Hood: Yeah, no, that’s an ideal query. I positively really feel that, particularly now, being on the opposite aspect of it. Whenever you’re within the thick of it, it’s such a blur. And actually, I’m actually unhealthy at remembering issues, so recalling all of it because it was might be robust. However with a ways, I’ve gained perspective. It actually felt like I used to be watching all the things from a chicken’s eye view. I used to be in a position to look again on sure moments and reconnect with myself in these previous conditions. That reflection allowed me to both heal or present some gentleness to these components of myself that I’d possibly ignored or been harsh with earlier than. It’s given me entry to lastly let plenty of that go. To put it down and cease carrying the burden round.

I suppose because you’ve been making music for thus lengthy, embarking on this challenge is so vital for you. What would you say this report symbolises to you within the trajectory of your profession?

Calum Hood: Yeah, I believe the toughest half is definitely committing to it. I imply, I may write songs on daily basis for the remainder of my life and by no means share them. But it surely’s the moments once you select to share that really feel probably the most susceptible and significant. For me, that’s been a mandatory a part of my journey as an artist. I wanted to learn to stand by myself, so I may develop, not only for myself, however so I may return as a greater model of me for the band. The band has all the time been my residence, and it all the time will likely be. That’ll all the time be the precedence. This solo challenge is actually about stepping away for a second to grasp myself extra deeply, to achieve readability, and to come back again extra refined. As an individual, a songwriter, and finally a greater asset to five Seconds of Summer season.

How did the expertise with the band affect you with this album, and the way has making this album modified your outlook on the band?

Calum Hood: For positive. I imply, I’m the final one within the band to launch a solo report, so I’ve been fortunate to have a very good blueprint to comply with. Watching how the others did it, how they did it efficiently whereas sustaining a wholesome dynamic inside the band and an actual respect for each their solo work and the group has been invaluable. I’ve actually simply been following of their footsteps, like a bit of brother watching his older siblings determine it out first. It’s made issues really feel much more manageable than if I’d been the primary to go solo, like Ashton was. He needed to navigate so many unknowns, and I’ve a lot respect for that, for all of them, actually, for his or her creativity and braveness to step out on their very own.

As for the way it’s affected me within the band, I really feel far more assured now. I do know what my strengths are, what I deliver to the desk, and weirdly, it’s made me love the band much more. Having skilled what it’s like to do that alone, it gave me a complete new appreciation for what we’ve got collectively. It’s an exquisite factor to exit by yourself and end up. But it surely’s additionally jogged my memory that the band is what I signed up for within the first place.

It’s fascinating to listen to that this challenge is horrifying so that you can launch as effectively!

Calum Hood: Yeah, you’re proper. Truthfully, the anticipation was the scariest half. However as soon as I used to be really within the course of, it felt fairly locked in. I believe that simply comes from having completed this for thus lengthy with the band, you get used to being within the rhythm of making. The tougher half was determining what I really needed to say and do by myself. That took time. However as soon as that clicked, the remaining got here extra naturally. It’s the decision-making. The second the place you commit and say, “Yeah, that is who I’m, and that is what I’m placing out into the world,” that’s the actually robust bit.

Did you spend plenty of time occupied with what you needed your first foray into solo musicianship to be, when it comes to which means and symbolism?

Calum Hood: Oh, 100%. At first, I needed it to be this grand, esoteric factor, one thing nobody totally understood however that bought fast acclaim. And that was earlier than I’d even began something. That mindset really began holding me again earlier than the method had even begun. I used to be already placing stress on it to be one thing it hadn’t had the prospect to turn into but. That’s type of the place the album title comes from too. I needed to let go of all these preconceived concepts I’d constructed up in my head about myself and the way individuals may understand the music. The actual problem was simply permitting it to be probably the most trustworthy model of me. And that was the true problem.

It’s additionally actually cool to listen to that the band is ready to come collectively, however that you may all go do your solo tasks as effectively.

Calum Hood: Yeah, no, completely. We discuss it on a regular basis. I believe we’re all very conscious of how uncommon and particular that is. The entire scenario, from the place we began to the place we at the moment are, feels type of surreal. We all know what the band means, not simply to different individuals however to every of us personally. And I believe there’s a deep respect for that. Truthfully, I don’t suppose the band would work as effectively if we didn’t have the house to precise ourselves individually too. That freedom has simply been a pure development over time. I really feel actually fortunate to be in a spot the place I can try this, the place I really feel supported to develop and discover by myself, however nonetheless come again to one thing that looks like residence, you understand?

Did you could have any influences for the report?

Calum Hood: Numerous individuals. Oh my god, yeah. Fixed music, and a pair movies have been actually pivotal as effectively. At any time when I’d write with Jackson, we’d all the time write a tune and play it to this montage of Misplaced In Translation or actually vibey 80s visuals. However that might point out whether or not we have been heading in the right direction with the songs. However plenty of European bands like The Radio Dept., Bloc Celebration, Teddybears, Phoenix… Sort of that extra Europe alt-rock. It’s a bit of extra refined when it comes to its manufacturing of the music. After which additionally some singer-songwriter, like Sufjan Stevens and Elliott Smith. These influenced the ballads.

I believe my favourites are nonetheless “Don’t Overlook You Love Me” and “Candy Goals.” Are there any songs you are notably happy with or keen on?

Calum Hood: I believe “I Needed to Keep” took the longest to jot down. It was a couple of variations, and it lastly got here collectively proper on the finish. But it surely additionally set the tone for the report, it was one of many first songs that have been written. It was an enormous indicator of like, oh my god I do know the place the report goes now. I believe wanting again I in all probability didn’t really feel that means, however wanting again as me now, it blew down the doorways when it comes to the writing type and vocal manufacturing, the lyricism, stuff like that. It actually set the precedent for the theme of the album. So I’m actually happy with that one.

What in regards to the visuals? Are you able to inform us something about that?

Calum Hood: There’s a tune a few documentary referred to as Streetwise, which is about these children in Seattle. They’re like rogue mavericks that dropped out of college and so they lived their lives on the streets. There’s this scene between the boy and the lady and she or he’s professing her love for him on this deserted resort. And he’s simply nervous about the place he’s going to purchase his subsequent joint. I don’t know, I actually love the sincerity of it as a result of they have been so cemented in themselves. There was no questioning, such as you would suppose a 12 12 months previous can be nonetheless determining who they’re, however they only didn’t actually really feel like that. So I took plenty of inspiration from that.

After which on the again finish, plenty of the visuals have been created with Andy DeLuca, who’s who we’ve labored with within the band earlier than. So rekindling that relationship has been such a enjoyable expertise, and he’s allowed me to type of see myself in a distinct mild and introduced one other dimension to the music that I didn’t suppose was potential. In order that’s been actually wonderful. Each tune has a video, and so they all tie into one another. It’s speculated to be like an extended, massive story.

Calum Hood 'ORDER chaos ORDER' © Sarah Eiseman
Calum Hood ‘ORDER chaos ORDER’ © Sarah Eiseman

How has this report helped you to develop as a musician and an artist, and a songwriter, all that?

Calum Hood: It’s helped me personally greater than as a musician. I believe I’ve realized what sort of management type I’ve and what sort of chief I’m. And it’s additionally helped me simply to essentially consider in what I believe is nice and what I believe is pure. And it’s additionally made me reconnect with my type of songwriting. It’s made me reconnect with each a part of the method, which is cool.

What do you hope listeners will take away from listening to the report?

Calum Hood: Truthfully, there’s not an excessive amount of expectation. I really feel like I’ve type of completed my job, you understand? After which the remaining is as much as them when it comes to how they need to join with it, in the event that they need to join with it in any respect. I simply hope they take pleasure in it.

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